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Starting in the middle of a series is a crazy idea but read the book. You in a world of low intelligent thanks to a disease that kills any child of high intelligent. One of the main character Klis suffered as a child. Lucky for the robots she and a boy called Brann survived this. The robots they to get these two to help the change of the world. The story is deep and philosophy like. A bit too deep to read. This book is better written than it's predecessor in the trilogy.
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It follows the characters more smoothly and one get's a feel for the complexity of what is happening. Unfortunately, the complexity also contributes to the difficulty I had following who the characters actually were. I found myself chapter after chapter flipping back through the book to find a character's name so I would know how to associate them with the current part of the plot.
Never the less I found the character's more engag This book is better written than it's predecessor in the trilogy. Never the less I found the character's more engaging than some other installments of the epic. Bear's portrait of Seldon is among the best. He seems to have some difficulty writing women. They come across as confusing. Maybe that's a product of Bear's own masculinity, but it doesn't hamper all writers.
The confluence of characters at the crisis of the story bears witness to the complexity built into the cast. The crisis itself became hard to follow, and between the machinations [ahem] of the robots, the politicians, the mentalics both rogue and protagonist, and the main characters the crisis became to protracted and dynamic to give the reader a sense of perspective. The situation is complicated by all the mental manipulation going on among characters. While the crisis was compact, it's presentation was disbursed.
Then again, Voltaire and Joan were back. Not as prominently, and not as luridly, but there still. They did not jar as they did in the previous work, but I was disappointed that they were not gone. I suspect they still aren't, though I can't be sure. The strong role of the robots I found jarring too, but since they've been a part of IA's universe all along, they were a little more tolerable.
Because it's part two of a trilogy, I would find it hard to recommend it as independent reading. In fact, I read it as part of an epic walk through the galactic empire. Some current authors are guarding their creations against fan fiction, and IA might have been wise to do the same.
It's hard to call the level of writing these books display fan fiction, but that's really what they are, on a very grand scale. If it lasts, one could see the Foundation becoming an open source sub-genre all its own. In the mean time, endorsed, as this book is, it is part of canon, and therefore an authentic stone in the wall. I loved it! Great weaving together, I like his style of writing more than the first of this trilogy but all in all, books 1 and 2 fit together so well and carry the whole universe and storyline exceptionally!
Holes of knowledge and information in the original trilogy and following books are given, different perspectives and angles and that feel right. I think they have done an amazing job with this series! Onto the third and final. The last of them all! Jul 31, Tim rated it liked it. Now, I'm not going to say that this series is as ground-breaking as Asimov's puhlease , but I do highly recommend that all the haters go back and read some of the originals and reassess how they feel about these authors matching or not matching Asimov's "voice.
An excellent and intriguing addition to Asimov's legacy. Greg Bear's contribution to this second trilogy carries Hari Seldon to the very cusp of the future. His writing skills most certainly do not disappoint. I hope that the trilogy's final novel by David Brin brings this saga to a satisfying close. Wonderful Any ScFi reader worth his salt knows Isaac foundation series They also miss his whole set of works fiction and non fiction. So,when a book rises up that brings a credible as Kinect to the series it's wonderful reading. Thank you Mr. For some reason, just couldn't connect with the characters.
Maybe it was because there were too many interesting characters? I was just left with the feeling that I had watched something very interesting and was hoping for more? Sep 30, Rob Markley rated it liked it Shelves: scifi. I really had high hopes of what Bear could bring to Asimov. I like Bear the more but I regret that I feel instead of lifting Foundation Bear was dragged down from his lofty and brilliant science based fiction.
Awesome read! Loved the way the book is integrated to the ones that came before in the series. Just like the others in this series, amazing how the multiple story lines merge together. No citation signs anywhere. But that could be because the whole book was a citation from Encyclopedia Galatcia. Anyway a good read, characteristic of Asimov's long sweeping scenarios.
Nov 19, Christopher Page rated it liked it. This is the second Foundation based book I read. After this I read the original Foundation trilogy. In a way I am glad I read this first because it helped built up the story of Hari Seldon, and this book ends in the perfect place for the original Foundation trilogy to pick up. In my opinion you can skip Foundation's Triumph, and probably Foundation's Fear as well as neither are that great. Of the second Foundation trilogy this volume was by far the best, I found the story interesting and it kept This is the second Foundation based book I read.
Of the second Foundation trilogy this volume was by far the best, I found the story interesting and it kept me wanting to read a little further. Compared with the novel that came before in this series , this one was phenomenal! It advances the story arc and sets up the crisis to be resolved in the third novel, without actually answering many questions itself. This novel was a faster read than Foundation's Fear Second Foundation Trilogy, 1 , and seemed to dovetail very nicely with the initial vignette in Foundation.
I was thrilled to see Dors back Compared with the novel that came before in this series , this one was phenomenal! Raych is mentioned right at the start of this novel. Unlike the previous novel , he is remembered to exist! The worm holes, a rare science accuracy in a world of space fiction often called science fiction of the previous novel has just been killed off in order to return to Asimov's hyper drive ships.
To those reviewers that found worm holes anti-cannon and unpalatable when reading the previous novel , this point in this novel must have been a wonder to behold. Are they jumping for joy? About the only part of that currently related to science is the assertion that Sodium chloride is table salt. Someone actually used "widdershins" in their manuscript! But alas, no. And honestly, what does it matter that those SIMs have quarreled? The Emperor? How did Klia et al discover that they were working for robots? I feel as if I missed a scene. At last telling, they just knew that they were working for mysterious individuals.
But robots? They know this now? Biggest secret in the universe and it seems that everyone knows it. Since Plussix is the one talking "Plussix and me" makes no sense. Or is that what the next book is for? So far, I think Greg Bear is my favorite author out of the entire Foundation series. Gregory Benford was definitely a step in the right direction with his characterization skills, but Bear takes that same skill and adds a prevailing plot that keeps the story moving along.
It still gets bogged down with a lot of details, but overall, I think he brings the best combination of talents to bear with this novel. This novel is a direct continuation, thematically, to Foundation's Fear the story's chrono So far, I think Greg Bear is my favorite author out of the entire Foundation series. This novel is a direct continuation, thematically, to Foundation's Fear the story's chronology takes place a couple of decades after the events in that novel , and focuses more on how the robots play into the entire series.
It helps alleviate some of the surprise I felt with the preceding novel, since I felt like the robots were over-represented, when Asimov had made them a rather understated element of the series, despite them being the reason the Foundation existed at all. But this trilogy appears to be an examination of the robots and their role in those events, which makes the series feel a little more significant. I still have trouble accepting the idea that the events of over 20, years of history were all part of a grand plan set in place so long ago.
It's not a criticism of the books or the series; I'm just not comfortable with the idea that individuals aren't all that important in the grand scheme of things. Life already reminds us that our existence is fleeting, and that we may not be as significant as we think we are; I don't want my fiction having to remind me of that fact, as well. I read to escape, not to be reminded of my ultimate futility. One aspect of the book that I initially disliked was the rehashing of the trial that began this series some 70 years ago. At first, I thought it was a way to pad out the book, but as the trial continued, I realized that we were seeing more of what was going on behind that trial.
Asimov's version moved quickly and clinically, focusing more on the elements of psychohistory than the people behind it; Bear delved into the people behind the trial, focusing on Seldon, Dornick, and other characters who weren't even mentioned in that initial story. It cemented the trial and made it more real, and I realized that this "rehash" was more necessary than I first realized. I find it odd to consider that the book's theme reinforces the idea of the futility of an individual in the history of the world, while the focus of the story itself is on the individuals.
I'm not sure if it's meant to be reassuring, or if it's just irony, but either way it made the book more readable for me. With this book complete, I have one last volume to read to be done with Foundation for good save for the Robot series, which is still up in the air with me. I don't see it as a series that I would want to read again in the future, but I'm glad that I've made it this far.
It felt like one of those series that I needed to read, and I'm glad to say that I have. Characters: R. Daneel Olivaw: Leader of the Giskardian robots. Hari Seldon: Mathist. Founder of psychohistory. Also known as Raven becuase of his forecast of the fall of the Empire. Linge Chen: Chief commissioner of Public Safety.
Wife of Stettin Palver. Dors Venabili: The Tiger woman. Hari's wife while he was first minister.
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Died protecting him from an assassination attempt. Kallusin: Man in green. Leader of th Characters: R. Leader of the Calvinian robots on Trantor.
Dahlite: Add a description of this character. Brann: Big brawny man. A mentalic, his power is making people like him. Klayus: Emperor of the empire. Plussix: Calvinian robot. Not humaniform. Undercover as an importer. Cleon: Former emporor, had Demerzel a. Daneel as first minister. Predecessor of Agis. General Prothon: Led Cleon into exile. Demerzel: Alias of Daneel Olivaw.
Demerzel was first minister to Cleon. Gaal Domick: Mathist. To become the fifty-first mathist to join the foundation project. Brought to trial with Hari Seldon. Klia Asgar: Dahliite mentalic with strong powers of persuasion. Tritch: Captian of three ships including Flower of Evil. The ship that searched for Lodovik Trema.
Joan: meme entity. Based on Joan of Arc.
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Sedjar Boon: Hari Seldon's attorney. R Yan Kansarv: Robot repairman. Built Eos station with Daneel. Lodovik Trema: Robot. Trusted councilor of Linge Chen. Trin: Crewwoman on the flower of evil. Kreen: Linge Chen's personal secretary. Captain Kartas Tolk: captain of the Spear of Glory. Native Sarossan. Farad Sinter: first minister to the emperor. Mors Planch: More than an expert on hyperdrives. He took Vara Liso on her sweeps to find mentalics and later robots.
Lors Avakim: young lawyer. Hired for Gaal Doornick. Prospective member of the encyclopedia project. Gerad Mint: Commander in palace security. Rock: human recruited by Kallisun. Agis: Emperor after Cleon and before Klayus. Nikolo Pas: Tyrant. Butcher of 50 billions people. Brought to Trantor so that he could be interviewed by Hari Seldon.
Apr 08, John Loyd rated it really liked it. Foundation and Chaos pages by Greg Bear. Much later Asimov connected the Foundation universe with his robot universe. In the second of those books Bear is at a point where Linge Chen, chief commissioner of public safety, has brought charges of Foundation and Chaos pages by Greg Bear. In the second of those books Bear is at a point where Linge Chen, chief commissioner of public safety, has brought charges of treason against Hari Seldon. Hari is awaiting trial. Meanwhile Farad Sinter with the help of Vara Liso is trying to first locate other mentalics, and later on robots.
Robots have formed two factions. Giskardian robots that have developed a zeroth law of robotics which is to guard humanity as whole and the Calvinians, named for Susan Calvin, who stick to the more rigid three laws. Since this is a prequel to Foundation the reason for reading it is to be interested in the characters and the explanation of how it came to be. Trema trying on his way to save people and knowledge on a world near a super nova is caught by the neutrino flux and stranded. Chen gets Mors Planch to look for Trema.
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Planch finds Trema, but reports him dead to Chen and instead delivers him to Daneel. Sinter catches Planch and learns of Lodovik Trema's survival and goes on a hunt for robots. Klia Asgar who has evaded capture by Vara Liso and Sinter is low enough on resources that she accepts an offer of protection from the man in green. The man in green turns out to be Kallisun the leader of the Calvinian robots. There is enough going on to keep the reader interested and not so much that it becomes too complex. The book can be read standalone. It has not stopped at a cliff hanger, and I only have vague recollections of the Foundation stories and Benford's Foundation's Fear that preceded this book.
Nov 23, Thomas Dachsel rated it really liked it Shelves: asimov. It gives a lot of background, not all of it is necessary, but some of it is somewhat interesting. The massive infusion of robots combined with the contribution of the mentalics made the story rather complicated, as two warring factions of robots play a substantial role. As I have not read Asimov's earlier novels on the robots, I have no idea whether all of this was fabricated by Mr. Bear or not. As another 2 of the Second Foundation Trilogy is definitely better than 1 which was very tedious.
As another reviewer put it, the sims play a much less important role here as opposed to 1, which is a huge plus. The book got stronger as the plot progressed, and the last third was a really good read. The culmination put the mentalics to the foreground of the action, and their confrontation with the robots was somewhat convoluted. Some of the scenes at the very end are very strong, though, and definitely justify reading this volume.
Now I'm looking forward to reading 3 Triumph which is said to be the best of the Second Foundation Trilogy. So far I can say that 3 is an almost seamless continuation of 2. May 09, Kip rated it liked it. Got these three Second Foundation Trilogy from a friend. Been a long time since I read the Foundation or robot stories from Asimov, so I was eager to jump back into the story. All three authors did a good job remaining true to the original timelines, major events and characters.
That said, you could tell this was sort of filler. Should have expected that, right? Has motivated me to go back and read some of the robot stories again -- lots of robot activity in all three of these. Aug 28, David rated it it was ok Shelves: speculative-fiction.
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Oh dear, oh dear, oh dear. Well, this was definitely better than Benford's entry in the Foundation series in that at no point while reading this did I want to gouge my eyes out. The system worked, and grew, for countless generations. Everyone believed it would work forever. Everyone except Hari Seldon. The epic story of the Foundation is one of the great classics of science fiction by the Grand Master of the genre.
Condition is Good. By Isaac Asimov. Foundation Series. Prelude to Foundation. Forward the Foundation. Foundation and Empire. Second Foundation. Foundation's Edge. Foundation and Earth. Isaac Asimov's the Foundation Series in paperback. Complete 7 book set of Isaac Asimov's Foundation Series. All books are in good condition with minor wear. Varying publishers.
Comic Books. Large Print. The Foundation novels of Isaac Asimov are among the great masterworks of science fiction. Foundation Book Series by Isaac Asimov. Now it is dying. You will get one complete set of 10 books from the Foundation Sci Fi Series, the first seven written by Isaac Asimov and the last 3 continued by other popular sci fi authors, titles as listed below.
Size of book and cover art may vary. Books included are as follows Book still in good condition. Book in good condition. Foundation's Triumph. Foundation and Chaos. Caught in the maelstrom are Seldon and all he holds dear, pawns in the struggle for dominance. A superorganism, Gaia is a holistic planet with a common consciousness so intensely united that every dewdrop, every pebble, every being, can speak for all—and feel for all.
Only 1 left! The dust jacket is in Good condition with some wear and small tears at the edges and spine corners. The dust jacket flap is price-clipped. There is a name label on the ffep from the previous owner. The binding is secure with a slight forward lean. The pages are clean with no markings of any kind. The blue and red quarter-bound cloth cover boards are clean with good corners. Four classic science fiction series in seven books, all in very good shape. Bantam Spectra 23rd printing.
Nebula Award Nominee. Locus Award Winner. The scientists of the First Foundation had proved victorious; and now they retum to Hari Seldon's long-established plan to build a new Empire that the Second Foundation is not destroyed after all-and that its still-defiant survivors are preparing their revenge.
Isaac Asimov. Isaac Asimov's Foundation Trilogy is one of the high-water marks of science fiction. Now, with the permission -- and blessing -- of the Asimov estate, the epic saga continues. With Hari Seldon on trial for treason, the Galactic Empire's long-anticipated migration to Star's End is about to begin. This is the fifth book in Isaac Asimov's Foundation series. This follows Asimov's exploration into the universe and Golan Travize's efforts to locate the lost planet - Earth. This large collection includes the books shown in the above photos.
These books range in condition mostly from Good to Very Good, a few have light to moderate wear, a few have worn covers. Galactic Empire. NY: Avon T, First Avon printing. Very Good condition. Creases along the spine and a crease at the front spine edge. Tanning to the pages. Robots and Empire.